Wow. Number two sounds like a section of the book I would love to read! When I heard of disaffected Circuit Overseers leaking his documents, I was stunned that someone operating at that capacity in the organization could be awake, yet still "going through the motions", as you described it. It sounds like you're putting together something really interesting! Best of luck.
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Writing a book on Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses - suggestions welcome
by truthseeker inso i finally decided to start writing a book on exiting jehovah's witnesses.
i've been meaning to do this for a very long time.
there are so many books out there and i don't want to repeat what everyone else has written.. although the book will include some basic history of jehovah's witnesses and the usual doctrinal flaws, it's core audience are those who are thinking about leaving, in the process of leaving or have already left.. the book will contain case studies of people who've left and made a success of their life.
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I'm starting a Counter-Watchtower magazine
by Counter-Watchtower inim starting a counter-watchtower magazine for everyone to give to their jw friends and family or just to give to those that come to your door.
the first issue is about the history of pyramidology of c.t.
russel and under the start of rutherford along with some other things like pointing out the fact that no one knows the translators of the nwt or writers of the watchtower, "the two very things relied on to teach you".. its writen in such a way to be very repectful but to make the reader think, and hopefully the light come on.
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It sounds like a really interesting project you're undertaking. I just know from person experience that Jehovah's Witnesses won't even accept a photocopy of their OWN magazine back issues because the source that's handing it to them is not a Jehovah's Witness, or it's someone still in, but trying to flag an issue. They're very hypocritical about rigorously handing people literature but will readily decline or throw away without reading anything given to them that covers religion.
@ScenicViewer Opening line "Im starting" needs an apostrophe, and don't forget "watchtower" requires an upper case. I understand the need for correct grammar and spelling when conveying important messages because sometimes the power of your content can become cheapened if the reader is distracted by simple typographical blunders. But hey - when banging out comments on here, I know I slip up for sure and use the wrong word at times. Pls dont dis my speling : (.
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"We don't venerate idols or images!"
by stuckinarut2 inhow often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".
members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.
they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .
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@cognisonance The society will justify temple prostitution by saying "all proceeds will go to the World Wide Work." *eye roll*
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Interesting conversation with JW friend
by Jules Saturn ini was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.
i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.
and i asked him "where is lazarus today?
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@waton Side note: interesting that you brought up the "stake/cross" alternatives. Does anyone here know what it actually means to be executed, as WT says Jesus was, by being "impaled on a stake"? Outside of WT's superimposed definition, this is a known method of humiliating torture where the accused would be pierced with a stake through the rectum with the stake puncturing through all the vital organs, and then finally protruding out of the mouth.
I won't attach the final photograph since it is quite graphic and NSFW. I'll leave the link as an option for those interested in viewing: http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/cannibalholocaust.jpg
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Deadly Discipline
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhttps://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/.
the death toll from watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of laura ann gracey.
here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.. i see many similarities to myself as laura.
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@Jules Saturn As a fully awake mother, my heart aches for the children she has left behind. I'm really sorry to hear about this case. @pale.emperor has had his own run-in with a flirtatious elder who slept with his now ex-wife. I believe these men as elders are more than aware of sisters' vulnerable states and submissive need for a head. Shame on that elder you mentioned for playing into that single mother's vulnerabilities. RIP.
@Venus I agree that WT's stubborn "one size fits all" box has resulted in said confusion and tension. With the additional threat of being ex-communicated for spilling out of this box, sometimes death can seem like the only solution for those in such a beaten up state of mind.
Ultimately, disfellowshipping is loving in the same way drinking out of a urinal trough is hygienic.
The two are irreconcilable.
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For ELDERS: Kingdom Ministry School for the 2018 Service Year (Picture)
by pixel ini know wifibandit will post the pdf soon, this is just a snack for you guys and girls.... .
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@neat blue dog Ironically, an anagram for the word "abhorred" is HARBORED... which is exactly what WT has done for their pedophiles.
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Deadly Discipline
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhttps://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/.
the death toll from watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of laura ann gracey.
here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.. i see many similarities to myself as laura.
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@stuckinarut2 I think many of us can attest to the erosion of our self esteem while in the organization. Throw in a dormant, biological predisposition for depression and the flames of mental illness will be fanned by the smokescreen of WT. Some of us do rise from the blaze like a phoenix by waking up. Others continue to smolder among the ashes of their existence by remaining "loyal" to the organization. And then, sadly, there are those whose lives are snuffed out completely because it got too much.
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Deadly Discipline
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhttps://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/.
the death toll from watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of laura ann gracey.
here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.. i see many similarities to myself as laura.
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https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/
The death toll from Watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of Laura Ann Gracey. Here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.
I see many similarities to myself as Laura. I internalized the pressure brought on by the Watchtower and had even attempted suicide at the age of 19 due to the perfectionist standards I inevitably kept falling short from. Coupled with the gruff injustice I was subjected to by my elders, I eventually snapped and left the organization a couple of years later to self-destruct with every vice possible.
Of course, I never drew the parallel to my dangerous lifestyle choices and depressive behavior to my religious upbringing and encounters with the elders. Although I had left, the seeds of my childhood indoctrination were firmly established with gnarly branches strangling me from the inside out. This was evident when I was careful to NEVER reveal to my then-therapist that I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness for fear of giving the organization a "bad name". I couldn't have her associating Jehovah's Witnesses with drug abuse and promiscuity, now, could I? It would hinder her from ever speaking to the Witnesses one day if she was contacted. With this vital piece of information left out of my blueprint, nothing my psychologist could say or do would penetrate through the thick sediment of delusion, misery and self-hatred that I was harboring.
Eventually, the organization beckoned. I'd hit rock bottom. Where else would I go? I returned at age 24, ready to be freshly programmed. I welcomed my child into this world in 2015 as a sister in good standing. And then 2016 rolled around and brought with it the Remain Loyal convention. I woke up. Hard.
I am thankful every day that my infant will NEVER grow up with the harrowing milieu of the society to envelop and encumber his mind and heart, as it did mine. Sure, troubled times may hit him later on in life, but I know he will never look up at me accusingly with the painful realization that he'd been lied to by the religion his mother raised him in and leave me with the one tortured question I'd asked my own parents after waking up: How could you?
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"Circumcision is a sign to set you apart from the people of the nations"
by stuckinarut2 inwe know that the hebrew scriptures, or old testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the jews apart from the "people of the nations".
but apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?.
i mean, how did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??
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Did you hear about the short-sighted Rabbi?
He got the sack.
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Grocery Store conversation with an elder
by problemaddict 2 ini'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.
i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.
i still run into to people all over though.
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@Nevuela I think it's the abbreviation for @ProblemAddict2's handle :).
